/CAN BELIEVERS DENY THE LORD AND LOSE THEIR SALVATION (PART 3)/ CAN BELIEVERS DENY THE LORD AND LOSE THEIR SALVATION (PART 3)

CAN BELIEVERS DENY THE LORD AND LOSE THEIR SALVATION (PART 3)

Here, I'll be explaining the two parts of Paul’s faithful saying. What is he actually talking about here? I will be unveiling the truths that Paul is bringing out here for us to see.

All Scripture passages are from the King James Version, unless where I have stated otherwise.

 

PAUL’S FAITHFUL SAYING EXPLAINED

2 Tim. 2: 11–12a

 

Let's jump right in!


The first part of the faithful saying as I earlier explained is for those who have believed in Christ already.

 

As I said, in my previous post, the word FAITHFUL here implies that these things Paul is saying from here onward are already settled facts. They’re not subject to debate or speculation.

 

The first part of the “FAITHFUL SAYING” says that; “...For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:”

 

The tense of the conditional clause “IF” used here, from vs. 11 to 12a is in the first class aorist condition. In Greek grammar, the “IF” clause that states a condition is known as the protasis (i.e. the clause expressing the condition in a conditional sentence, or making the proposition), and the result or effect of that stated condition is the apodosis (the clause expressing the result or consequence in a conditional sentence), and is usually expressed by the “then” clause. A sort of “if” this “then” that statement. In other words, if this is true, then the other which is the result, automatically becomes true or becomes the case. 

 

A clear example would be “If therefore thine eye be single [the protasis], then thine whole body shall be full of light [apodosis]." (Matt. 6: 22, 23 emphases added).

But because the “IF” here is in the first class aorist condition, it implies that it is stating a settled fact, and should better be rendered as “since” or “being that.” It’s not an assumption.

So Paul is not using the “IF” to state something that is assumed, optional, or that is yet to take place but has already occurred, and is a settled fact, and will continue that way forever, and as such the result is also a settled fact.

 

A better reading would be, “Since together we have died with him, together we shall also live with him:.

 

This is true of every Believer in Christ, being that we are one with the Lord (1 Cor. 6: 17). Spiritually speaking, it is a fact that we died with Christ, and rose with Him, and through the New Birth, we now live with Him, and will forever continue to live with Him forever. (Rom. 6: 5, 8; Col. 2: 20; 3: 3, 4).

 

Paul did not say we should die to "self" as religionists say so that we will be able to live with Him. Instead, he says “We died with Him already.” (Rom. 6: 5, 6; Col. 3: 3). And since our dying with Him is already something concluded, then our living with Him forever is already a concluded fact as well.

 

Paul then goes on to say “If we suffer, we shall also reign with him:”. The term “SUFFER” here is from the Greek word “hupomeno” and means; persevering, enduring. Here also the “IF” is in the first class aorist perfect condition, and as such should read “since.”

 

Therefore, a better reading of that statement would be “Since we are persevering, also together we shall reign…”. This assurance is a powerful encouragement for Believers who are already persevering and enduring tough times in this present world; knowing that we’re reassured of our eternal reign with Christ.

 

This perseverance or endurance has to do with our fighting the good fight of faith as we live the faith life and serving the Lord despite the persecutions and problems of this world. (1 Tim. 6: 12).

 

Religionists have taught their members that our reigning in life with Christ will begin when we get to heaven. But that’s contrary to the Pauline revelation.

 

Paul tells us that we have already started reigning with Christ already, here on earth, and will continue to reign with Him for all eternity. (Rom. 5: 17; 1 Cor. 4: 8). This is really fantastic news.

 

The life we have in Christ now is a victorious life, a reigning life, and one that’s capable of withstanding (enduring, persevering) all odds and remaining victorious even through the toughest of times. It’s an indestructible life. Therefore, we are not just going to reign someday when we get to heaven; we are already reigning here on Earth, right now. This is an already established reality.

 

All that matters now is for you to awaken to this truth, to begin exploring the limitlessness of your victorious life in Christ.

 

THE SHIFT

Now the shift comes. Paul now shifts his focus from the FAITHFUL SAYINGS he has been speaking about Believers, and our unbreakable union with the Lord and its eternal benefits that accrue to us because we are already in Christ.

 

He now shifts his attention to the second part of the FAITHFUL SAYING, which is the part that addresses his fellow Jewish kinsmen who have never believed in Jesus and anyone else who denies or refuses to believe in Christ.

This second part of the FAITHFUL SAYING begins from 2 Tim. 2: 11–12b. It says “...If we deny Him, He also will deny us.”

 

You remember as earlier stated, by using the expression FAITHFUL SAYING, Paul is also using this statement to indicate facts concerning those who keep denying or rejecting Christ.

 

Now concerning the above statement of Paul, there is something we have to understand here. The tense of the protasis (i.e. the clause expressing the condition in a conditional sentence, or making the proposition) introduced by the conditional clause “IF” changes to future continuous. Implying an action continued, i.e. a continued act of denial or rejection.

 

The pronoun “WE” here as I’ve previously explained in the Part 2 of this post cannot be referring to Believers. This is clearly understood from the apodosis (the clause expressing the result or consequence in a preceding conditional sentence) which says here; “...He also will deny us.” The “US” cannot be referring to Believers because such a notion “that the Lord will deny us” contradicts the body of revelation that Scripture has unveiled about the unbrokenness and unbreakableness of our eternal union or relationship with the Lord.

 

This is where religious mongers miss the point because they fail to realize this unbreakable union we have with the Lord through the New Birth. Many do not believe in it. They’re always taking it lightly or undermining it. That is where their problem lies. But the following points I’m about to make here, if understood will cure anyone of their unbelief in this area.

 

Now realize the following.


Once a person has been Born Again, the Lord can no longer deny him or her. The Lord cannot deny a Believer in Christ because He cannot deny someone He already knew, who was already joined to Him in the New Birth (1 Cor. 6: 17). The Lord cannot say He no longer knows that person. He cannot deny or reject someone He already accepted unconditionally. That would make Him a total liar.

 

The payload or burden that keeps our relationship with the Lord running doesn’t lie on us but on the Lord Himself.

 

Another thing we should also realize here is in what the Lord said in Psalms;

Psa 89:34  My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips

 

From the above scriptural verse, we are told GOD doesn’t break His covenant, nor revoke His promises. Since GOD doesn’t do this in any way, how then can He turn around and deny, break, or revoke His eternal relationship (which is higher than just a covenant) with the Believer in Christ? This is absolutely unthinkable. We have to recognize that the New Birth in Christ is far greater than any covenant. As a matter of truth, it’s actually not even a covenant. It’s more than just that. It’s a Father and Child relationship. A sort of the same blood relationship.

 

Let me explain further with the marriage covenant; take, for instance, that you are married. Being married implies that you are in a marriage covenant (agreement) with your spouse, right? But then you’re not in any covenant with the children that will be born to you both. They’re products of your very life and blood. That’s greater than being in a covenant with anybody. This is how our relationship with GOD is. It’s more than a mere covenant. So if GOD doesn’t break His covenant with the unregenerated Jews under the Old Covenant, how then will He break or revoke the eternal relationship He has with us in Christ, a relationship that is far greater than any covenant bond He ever made with any man or nation.

 

We are His very own children, who are forever carrying His very own DNA. Truly speaking, the family bond in Christ is far greater than any covenant bond.

It is therefore guaranteed that GOD will never deny, break, or revoke His eternal relationship with any Believer.

 

In the light of this, we can see why the “US” in the statement “...He also will

deny us:” (2 Tim. 2: 12b), cannot be referring to Believers.


Therefore, if the “US” in the apodosis isn’t referring to Believers, then it stands clear that the “WE” in the protasis “...If we deny Him,” isn’t referring to Believers either, following the rule of agreement between the “collective pronoun” in the protasis and the “collective pronoun” in its corresponding apodosis. Both must be in agreement. Hence, the "WE" and "US" of 2 Tim. 2: 12b are both not referring to Believers in Christ.


Checkmate on religion! 

 

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